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on pakistan so. i don't think we can just very briefly please we're talking live in mumbai obviously these are events are unfolding at the moment this could be the start of many more explosions tell us what is it like to be there at the moment how the emergency services what's the mood like is there panic there in the streets in mumbai just briefly. then again he's been he didn't do the simple big yahoo because. it was full of i knew the last twenty years. you know that but he was. the head of the speedometer. and he does the and i'm the. straight maker that i should look asian and i was really. really good. to be here yet who gives. a three star. or a fish to town thanks very much indeed investigations editor with the to help weekly magazine live there in mumbai. other news now this hour rupert murdoch's media empire has announced it's to withdraw its bid to buy outright control of the u.k.'s biggest satellite broadcaster b. sky b. it's the latest twist to the phone hacking crisis that's engulfed th
on pakistan so. i don't think we can just very briefly please we're talking live in mumbai obviously these are events are unfolding at the moment this could be the start of many more explosions tell us what is it like to be there at the moment how the emergency services what's the mood like is there panic there in the streets in mumbai just briefly. then again he's been he didn't do the simple big yahoo because. it was full of i knew the last twenty years. you know that but he was. the head of...
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finally let me turn to pakistan. we all accept the long-term stability in afghanistan depends on stability in pakistan. when i met president zadari. like amended the pakistan's security forces in tackling violent extreme as in the northwest of the country but as the prime ministers said the situation in pakistan continues to be serious. there's a danger that the death of osama bin laden which should be welcomed on all sides will not have that effect in pakistan. i asked him there for what steps he has taken for british support of counter-terrorism in pakistan at the heart of our relationship to the pakistan government. we all want to see british troops come home at the earliest opportunity, not least all the families and friends of those who are currently serving in afghanistan. we also want to see the campaign concluded in a way that ensures their service and sacrifice has not been in vain and afghanistan and a wider region moves into a stable future rather than once again posing a serious threat to our security and
finally let me turn to pakistan. we all accept the long-term stability in afghanistan depends on stability in pakistan. when i met president zadari. like amended the pakistan's security forces in tackling violent extreme as in the northwest of the country but as the prime ministers said the situation in pakistan continues to be serious. there's a danger that the death of osama bin laden which should be welcomed on all sides will not have that effect in pakistan. i asked him there for what steps...
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and pakistan and the raid on osama bin laden's compound in pakistan. this is moderated by senior national security correspondent for "the washington post" care and de young who stood by the group patricia ellis gives a brief opening remarks. this is an hour and 20 minutes. >> good evening everyone and welcome. i am going to start again. sorry. good evening, everyone, and welcome. i'm patricia less president of the women's foreign policy group. we promote women's leadership and of places pressing international issues of the day such as our topic for tonight, u.s.-pakistan relations. on behalf of the wfpg and board members present tonight, don, gayle, theresa, donna, i want to welcome everybody here. we are so glad that you could join us for this the high end of the headline yvette. these are evens on hot issues in the news and recently we have done a fence on egypt, libya, women in the middle east, and every event tonight is with investor husain haqqani, the pakistani ambassador to the u.s. who will be joined by our friend and frequent speaker and moder
and pakistan and the raid on osama bin laden's compound in pakistan. this is moderated by senior national security correspondent for "the washington post" care and de young who stood by the group patricia ellis gives a brief opening remarks. this is an hour and 20 minutes. >> good evening everyone and welcome. i am going to start again. sorry. good evening, everyone, and welcome. i'm patricia less president of the women's foreign policy group. we promote women's leadership and...
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i mean the pakistan in and of itself georgetown we have a project and we looked at this inside and out it is a crazy situation over there is a very complex country and the relationship between our two countries has been a kin to you know codependent violent spouses you know i love you i hate you i love you i hate you sometimes in the same breath i mean literally power. on each other and the military is part of that in the military runs a guy aside the i.s.i. could not be trusted in the eyes of the administration to deal with or some of been largely you know and i we didn't know he was there and you have a population that hates the united states as well china has a much bigger you know public relations profile over there than we do and we give them billions of dollars so it's a very complex thing you know public enemy number one was in their country it's a it's a history of this stuff going back to the daniel pearl thing where you know the government basically put somebody you want nothing to do with killing him on trial and harmless you know so it's called threats and i can see why the
i mean the pakistan in and of itself georgetown we have a project and we looked at this inside and out it is a crazy situation over there is a very complex country and the relationship between our two countries has been a kin to you know codependent violent spouses you know i love you i hate you i love you i hate you sometimes in the same breath i mean literally power. on each other and the military is part of that in the military runs a guy aside the i.s.i. could not be trusted in the eyes of...
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is not in a war in pakistan the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are gathering the information who are doing the investigation to try to collect the information so that we can bring a more transparent a more honest picture to the public about what's happening in pakistan. earlier we talked to a man who reached out beyond earth's atmosphere and became one of the select few ever to walk on the phone that's after a recap of the week's top stories coming to you in just a few moments. for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. bringing you the latest in science and technology from a. b
is not in a war in pakistan the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are gathering the information who are doing...
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pakistan has yet to prove which side they are really on. so much so that when osama bin laden was taken out by the american military we did not trust pakistan enough to even tell them that we were going to -- we were going to come into their country. our distrust against that country has been proven over and over again since that date. on may 16 "the wall street journal" reported that over 40% of the money that pakistan requests for reimbursement for military aid is denied by the federal government because those claims are unfounded by the federal government. in one case last year the united states paid millions of dollars to refurbish four helicopters to help pakistan's army transport troops into battle against the taliban. but it turned out that pakistan diverted three of those aircraft to peace keeping duties in sudan prakeses which pakistan receives compensation from the united nations. other claims include a $26 million charge for barbed wire and pickets and $70 million for radar maintenance although there's no enemy air threat related
pakistan has yet to prove which side they are really on. so much so that when osama bin laden was taken out by the american military we did not trust pakistan enough to even tell them that we were going to -- we were going to come into their country. our distrust against that country has been proven over and over again since that date. on may 16 "the wall street journal" reported that over 40% of the money that pakistan requests for reimbursement for military aid is denied by the...
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yemen somalia parts of northern africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more central to what happens in afghanistan a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve fully we're covering the surge i had announced at west point well it certainly sounds like what the american people would like to hear for the first time ever a majority want us troops out about ghana's down as soon as possible fifty six percent while thirty nine percent want troops there until the situation is stabilized you can see the trend is really flip flopped but what is the reality of obama's plans for troop withdrawal well that thirty three thousand he's calling for is a minority of the one hundred thousand american troops that are there that's not including another forty two thousand some nat
yemen somalia parts of northern africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more central to what happens in afghanistan a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve...
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has not had a war in pakistan the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering information who are doing the investigation to try to collect the information so that we can bring a more transparent a more honest picture to the public about what's happening in pakistan. shortly we talk to a man who's joined a very exclusive club one of the few to have reached beyond earth stop here and fewer still to have walked a little surface about south for writer of this week's top stories in just a few moments. we'll. just see. the beasts. come up. in the marshes be soo much brighter than if you live on some from funniest impressions some. of
has not had a war in pakistan the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering information who are...
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drone attacks in pakistan and want to virally lawsuit of a former cia legal chief for approving attacks that killed hundreds of innocent. this week the phone hacking and police bribery scandal was taken to the british parliament rupert murdoch his son james and former u.k. c.e.o. rebecca brooks all grilled by british lawmakers for several hours the trio said that they were deeply sorry for what happened however a new allegations have emerged that the news international chairman james murdoch misled m.p.'s by saying that he was unaware of the true extent of illicit phone tapping by his company's reporters the model could now face legal challenges in the u.s. over claims the voice mails of nine eleven victims were also targeted meanwhile the britons hacking scandal appears to be spreading beyond the mode of empire claims the sunday mirror what also bugs celebrities voicemail messages results he's a guy in nature kind of reports critics believe the issue is just the tip of the iceberg in a society that no longer values values individual perhaps. as the scandal over phone hacking by the mur
drone attacks in pakistan and want to virally lawsuit of a former cia legal chief for approving attacks that killed hundreds of innocent. this week the phone hacking and police bribery scandal was taken to the british parliament rupert murdoch his son james and former u.k. c.e.o. rebecca brooks all grilled by british lawmakers for several hours the trio said that they were deeply sorry for what happened however a new allegations have emerged that the news international chairman james murdoch...
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his reports about links between pakistan's security agencies and muslim extremists. mullen said thursday he has not seen anything to, quote, disabuse the report that he knew about shazad's death. basically that means he thinks he knew but he didn't have proof. they call mullen's comments irresponsible. >>> tens of thousands of protestors poured into tehrer square in cairo today to pressure the government to slow reforms. some groups say they'll protest in the square for 18 days, which was the length of the revolution. >>> and there was tragedy at a texas rangers game. look at that video, that fan falling 20 feet to a concrete area behind the scoreboard at rangers ballpark. he was reaching for a ball thrown by rangers outfielder josh hamilton. the man was raisced to the hospital but he died. the rangers said their thoughts and prayers are with the man's family. a man was injured last year after falling about 30 feet trying to catch a foul ball. >>> they are willing to cut social security if republicans agree to increase taxes on the rich. but my next guest says, hands
his reports about links between pakistan's security agencies and muslim extremists. mullen said thursday he has not seen anything to, quote, disabuse the report that he knew about shazad's death. basically that means he thinks he knew but he didn't have proof. they call mullen's comments irresponsible. >>> tens of thousands of protestors poured into tehrer square in cairo today to pressure the government to slow reforms. some groups say they'll protest in the square for 18 days, which...
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that pakistan was not happy with this unilateral action from washington, the u.s. forces watching the bin laden compound. many stru as a violation of the sovereignty and this arrest, another indication that pakistan still is unhappy, perhaps a way of sending a message to washington, and also a way of finding out how the cia managed to set up an elaborate intelligence network on the ground here in pakistan behind the government's back. suzanne? >> reza sayah, thank very much. >>> a government shutdown. 20,000 people now out of work. the standoff hits home for one family when both parents are laid off from their state jobs. >>> 20,000 workers in minnesota face another day off the job. the democratic governor and republican lawmakers are locked in a stalemate over the state's $5 billion budget deficit. as chris welsh spent an afternoon with the family caught in the middle of this budget standoff to find out how they're coping. >> it's hard. i miss my job, and i miss doing the work that i know is so important for minnesota. i work for the office of emergency preparedne
that pakistan was not happy with this unilateral action from washington, the u.s. forces watching the bin laden compound. many stru as a violation of the sovereignty and this arrest, another indication that pakistan still is unhappy, perhaps a way of sending a message to washington, and also a way of finding out how the cia managed to set up an elaborate intelligence network on the ground here in pakistan behind the government's back. suzanne? >> reza sayah, thank very much. >>>...
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drone attacks in pakistan wants a virus a lawsuit a former cia legal chief for approving attacks that killed hundreds of innocent. emergency workers have recovered more bodies from the russian pleasure boat that sank in the volga river two weeks ago killing more than one hundred twenty the wrecked ship has now been lifted from the bottom and shallow waters of the task is now to pump water from the hole so investigators can examine the vessel to determine the cause of the tragedy the search continues for the bodies of the last two missing victims which could still be trapped inside the bulgarian went down within minutes of drowning more than half of its two hundred passengers the boat's owner is under investigation and two people have already been charged with violating safety regulations. a sigh of relief after long talks e.u. leaders are finally agreed on how to help the country avoid defaulting on its debt athens will now receive a new bailout worth an estimated one hundred and nine billion euros the plan also involves lowering interest rates and extending the period in which i must
drone attacks in pakistan wants a virus a lawsuit a former cia legal chief for approving attacks that killed hundreds of innocent. emergency workers have recovered more bodies from the russian pleasure boat that sank in the volga river two weeks ago killing more than one hundred twenty the wrecked ship has now been lifted from the bottom and shallow waters of the task is now to pump water from the hole so investigators can examine the vessel to determine the cause of the tragedy the search...
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>> the kind of thing like in pakistan. go after people, use drones. you have to deal with the places we can't occupy. they might have be be september in to operate from time to time. >>> this mornings must read opinion pages and infrastruct e infrastructure. we'll be right back. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ >>> welcome back to "morning joe." time for the must read opinion pages. we start with "the new york times" negotiating on a knife's edge. mr. obama, this is the paper's editorial and it says this. mr. obama might want to consider the advice of several constitutional scholars who say congress may not be able to put the govern in -- such a declaration would lead to litigation or attempts to impeachment. if republicans reach a deal or if democrats will not support it because it leans too heavily on the less fortunate, the constitutional option may look better than the recession option. people are worried about where the country is going. >> j-o-b-s. i
>> the kind of thing like in pakistan. go after people, use drones. you have to deal with the places we can't occupy. they might have be be september in to operate from time to time. >>> this mornings must read opinion pages and infrastruct e infrastructure. we'll be right back. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ >>> welcome back to "morning joe." time for the must...
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afghan and iraq issues, but it will be this emerging theater of war on terror, somalia, yemen and still pakistan and the traditional concerns about north korea and iran. iran may prove, kyra, to be topping the list in the months and years to come. a lot of concern that the regime is getting very involved in afghanistan, in iraq, and really trying to exert its influence throughout that region. so all of this list of countries are going to be the things that petraeus will be dealing with as director petraeus one he's no longer general petraeus. >> it will be interesting to watch the difference that he makes and the changes that he makes. barbara starr from the pentagon. barbara, thanks. >> reporter: sure. >>> told is nelson mandela's birthday. he turns 93, and millions of school children around the country saying happy birthday to mandela before lessons begin today. take a listen. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday dear nelson >> how else are people celebrating mandela on this special day? >> reporter: well, it is a special day for south africans, and there was,
afghan and iraq issues, but it will be this emerging theater of war on terror, somalia, yemen and still pakistan and the traditional concerns about north korea and iran. iran may prove, kyra, to be topping the list in the months and years to come. a lot of concern that the regime is getting very involved in afghanistan, in iraq, and really trying to exert its influence throughout that region. so all of this list of countries are going to be the things that petraeus will be dealing with as...
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is not in a war in pakistan the usa is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen in somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militant that's being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering the information who are doing the investigation to try to collect the information so that we can bring a more transparent more honest picture to the public about what's happening in pakistan. that's the hours main news i'll be back with the headlines after a short break stay with us here on our team. welcome to the future of what makes a big splash in the world of high tech business what turns events science into i get you products they don't understand oh he'll teach these is going to be full of russian innovators to ease your meters and broaden and their big breakthrough back home spotlight on startups on technolo
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to be operating within pakistan i actually think that the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen in somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering information who are doing the investigation and trying to collect the information so that we can bring a more transparent more honest picture to the public about what's happening in pakistan. the u.s. clearly the drone strikes to last despite what you're saying there bring success with a minimal amount of collateral damage but you're talking about all they still an effective tool to strike a target for more conventional weapons. you know i don't think so and i think that if the u.s. is going to make that that claim to make those assertions it's going to
to be operating within pakistan i actually think that the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen in somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are...
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more extremists groups and individuals have been attacked and taken down in pakistan than any place else in the world. they are very important partners of ours. we will have frustrations and indeed we've obviously had an important set of conversations, difficult conversations with the pakistanis since the raid on the osama bin laden compound in abbottabad, pakistan. we're committed to working through these issues. we believe it's in our national interest to do so. >> you saw "the new york times" article that detailed using cell phone conversations, what seemed pretty clear evidence, that the pakistani military, some elements of the pakistani military must have known that osama bin laden was holed up in abbottabad. does your intelligence confirm that? >> i've not seen any evidence that the pakistani leadership elements, the army, military, the intelligence or the political leadership, had foreknowledge of osama bin laden's operating in abbottabad, pakistan. >> you're saying leadership. >> i can't speak -- i don't -- i can't confirm or deny what you laid out here. i haven't seen any eviden
more extremists groups and individuals have been attacked and taken down in pakistan than any place else in the world. they are very important partners of ours. we will have frustrations and indeed we've obviously had an important set of conversations, difficult conversations with the pakistanis since the raid on the osama bin laden compound in abbottabad, pakistan. we're committed to working through these issues. we believe it's in our national interest to do so. >> you saw "the new...
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drone attacks in pakistan want to fire a lawsuit at a former cia legal chief for approving attacks that killed hundreds of innocent. this week the phone hacking and police bribery scandal was taken to the british parliament rupert murdoch his son james and former c.e.o. rebecca brooks all grilled by british lawmakers for several hours the trio said they were deeply sorry for what happened however new on occasions have emerged that the news international james were misled by saying he was unaware of the true extent of illicit phone tapping by his company's reporters meanwhile questions are being asked over the death of journalist sean hoare the man credited with revealing the phone hacking scandal. reports it's striking parallels with another whistleblower. from another political scandal erupts another whistleblower diaries sean hoare was the first news of the world journalists to go on the record to alleged phone hacking was endemic at the paper and that its editor andy colson actively encouraged it who was found dead in his house on monday. into a frenzy of comparisons with the case of
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kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said, what are you nuts? all you're going to do is get both sides angry at you. so the administration has stayed away from that as the bush administration did, you know, kind of like it's poison, and that's probably the right policy. so the notion that this council could actually do much other than, you know, throw a few cocktail parties and actually influence u.s. policy, boy, what a waste of money. jon: all right. jim carafano from the heritage foundation. read more from him on foxnews.com on this topic. jim, thank you. jenna: new developments surrounding oper
kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said,...
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of nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and afghan leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between genuine united states of america and its year of paean nato partners. oh we're back with latest headlines just a couple minutes here not. feel. to the limited. to do so. seem. to feel. if. the. machine would be so much brighter if you knew about sums from finance to freshen some. screen stunts on t.v. don't. wealthy british scientists on the world's. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy in the report. if you're followed up on my. back and part of. it goes back to a time when people would bite out of their forces in the wild west and pick up a piece future dates important for prosecution what company may almost feel guilty. when they go out there. and you have to hope that nothing bad. but we're chasing killers and you gotta keep that in mind others that to me a dollar bill for his arrest. but not super hero they can be killed in the head i'm going to die. and. never go back
of nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and afghan leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between genuine united states of america and its year of paean nato partners. oh we're back with latest headlines just a couple minutes here not. feel. to the limited. to do so. seem. to feel. if. the. machine would be so much brighter if you knew about sums from finance to freshen some. screen stunts on t.v. don't....
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will it have any type of impact on pakistan? >> pakistan says no. they're saying we can handle whatever it is, but, you know, this is -- this is a very important relationship, the u.s.-pakistan relation shi. -- relationship. it's in a very bad way. is it likely to completely unravel? no, the stakes are too high. but one of the things concerning the u.s. is we're bickering with the pakistanis and reducing aid, they're not helping us and they're not helping them. they're turning more to get help from china. they've had a lot more contact with china. the -- the whole issue is on that border. the border with afghanistan, waziristan, taliban, al qaeda, other troops are operating. >> pakistan will continue the fight, even without the $800 million in military aid, it will continue the fight against the militants. a lot of people are saying, where have you been until now? what fight is taking place at this point? >> it's true. it's a fair criticism. it's a fair criticism that the pakistanis haven't done enough in certain areas. you have to balance that by s
will it have any type of impact on pakistan? >> pakistan says no. they're saying we can handle whatever it is, but, you know, this is -- this is a very important relationship, the u.s.-pakistan relation shi. -- relationship. it's in a very bad way. is it likely to completely unravel? no, the stakes are too high. but one of the things concerning the u.s. is we're bickering with the pakistanis and reducing aid, they're not helping us and they're not helping them. they're turning more to get...
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show that the al-qaida network was angry and frustrated by the cia campaign in the tribal areas of pakistan and achieving the objective to take senior operatives off of the battlefield and keep the group under pressure so it is difficult for operatives to plan, train and raise money. uma, it is no coincidence that we are starting an identical campaign in yemen. yemen is one of the rising threatt hubs and americans are front and center in al-awaki who i describe is leader of al-qaida 2.0. he was overlooked in a key player in the al-qaida network. why was he not taken seriously? >> one of the things i lay out in the book behind the scene was our . what i showed in interviews and phone records. al-awlaki's contact with the hijackers were evidence of a personful relationship. when he return to the pentagon in 2002 as part of the outreach to moderate muslims, it was like a thief returnns to the scene of the crime, he was contacted with three of the five hijackers on flight 577 that went in the building. >>> and one of the things that is interesting, you want people to understand that this is not
show that the al-qaida network was angry and frustrated by the cia campaign in the tribal areas of pakistan and achieving the objective to take senior operatives off of the battlefield and keep the group under pressure so it is difficult for operatives to plan, train and raise money. uma, it is no coincidence that we are starting an identical campaign in yemen. yemen is one of the rising threatt hubs and americans are front and center in al-awaki who i describe is leader of al-qaida 2.0. he was...
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well i let's let's take pakistan for example everybody recognizes how bad things are with pakistan and i think you got to do the good cop bad cop thing here i mean you really do i mean everybody does it you really need to have a state department who is seen as kind learned gentler trying to do their outreach trying to work with people and you might have a department offense in the form of a secretary gates playing hardball and his case you had essentially kind of the reverse you had secretary of state clinton badmouthing the pacs and then who do you go to if you can't go to our state department for outreach so this is been kind of the record the same in egypt i think we've missed clinton has reached out to the muslim brotherhood but what about the christians i mean you know jesus so i think even if the muslims are getting attention they kind of see that well you know you promised this inclusive thing and and things are really going what you said they would so i think what we've seen here is a reality that doesn't match the rhetoric and i think that again that's where we're seeing a lot
well i let's let's take pakistan for example everybody recognizes how bad things are with pakistan and i think you got to do the good cop bad cop thing here i mean you really do i mean everybody does it you really need to have a state department who is seen as kind learned gentler trying to do their outreach trying to work with people and you might have a department offense in the form of a secretary gates playing hardball and his case you had essentially kind of the reverse you had secretary...
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pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures where you can turn the aid back on. >> so how do they get there, fran? is this simply a slap on the wrist or is it a real threat by the obama administration, that, look, they are fed up with pakistan and they are not going to deal with them in the same way? >> no, it's much more than a mere slap on the wrist? i don't think the administration wanted to find themselves having to get to the point. there's tremendous public pressure and congress for them to use this, and the problem is it's one of national pride. what you are seeing is pak
pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures...
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. >>> government in pakistan continues to investigate the death of osama bin laden. how officials plan to keep tabs on his relatives. >>> we are checking your morning commute and weather. fox 5 morning news will be right back.
. >>> government in pakistan continues to investigate the death of osama bin laden. how officials plan to keep tabs on his relatives. >>> we are checking your morning commute and weather. fox 5 morning news will be right back.
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when i went to pakistan i went to the to their school of jamal to me they have each year i guess. between thirty and forty. students who was wisting that school each year what were the circumstances of your arrest when i got arrested. they do. told me anything what's going on they didn't told me. that they're looking for terrorists or what was he said just we don't. going to check your passport a lot i did not know that time was a gift all the bonspiel through some dollars for each person and. not under my name bought for anyone who is too and all lots of the americans as a terrorist they will receive through solved all and through some dollars in pakistan a lot of money was not socialism just when i had my first interrogation i can go months to my detention in pakistan. they asked me if i will mall with someone and if he didn't there was not interested on me if you were transferred to come to haul in afghanistan what happened there in kandahar was happening. all kind of things like you can just imagine on the thoughts. and. on myself i saw many people got killed on the torture an
when i went to pakistan i went to the to their school of jamal to me they have each year i guess. between thirty and forty. students who was wisting that school each year what were the circumstances of your arrest when i got arrested. they do. told me anything what's going on they didn't told me. that they're looking for terrorists or what was he said just we don't. going to check your passport a lot i did not know that time was a gift all the bonspiel through some dollars for each person and....
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is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. reza how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard a lot of rhetoric from both sides, finger pointing, accusations. this is more than rhetoric. i think things changed after the raid on the bin laden compound here in pakistan in may. this was viewed by many here in pakistan as an embarrassment for the country and the military. it was viewed as a violation of pakistan's sovereignty by people here. ever since then, both sides have made moves that have substantially changed the complexion of this relationship. $800 million in cash and military equipment. the message here is we are not happy with the effort you are making. if you want to cont
is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. reza how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard a lot of rhetoric from both...
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the isi is pakistan's notorious intelligence agency. fai donated to candidates and members of congress. republican congressman dan burr top of indiana received $5,500 since 1997. in 2008, presidential candidate barack obama got $400 from fai's group. republican congressman joe pitts from pennsylvania got $500 also and said today it makes me feel used. i don't like getting used like that. the fai case doesn't help the relations strained after bin laden was found living inside pakistan. >> it will be difficult going forward. not a lot of support for continueed aid to pakistan. >> congresswoman had a bill yesterday to block aid to several countries including pakistan unless they cooperate to fight world terror. >> a second suspect accused of funneling money from i si to fai's organization is at large in pakistan. both are american citizens in washington, steve steve, fo --steve centanni, fox news. >> bret: is gang of six closing in on a break through for the debt crisis? we discuss it with the fox all-stars after the break. @çóo? >>> we
the isi is pakistan's notorious intelligence agency. fai donated to candidates and members of congress. republican congressman dan burr top of indiana received $5,500 since 1997. in 2008, presidential candidate barack obama got $400 from fai's group. republican congressman joe pitts from pennsylvania got $500 also and said today it makes me feel used. i don't like getting used like that. the fai case doesn't help the relations strained after bin laden was found living inside pakistan. >>...
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pakistan at war with itself. by "washington post" correspondent pamela constable dell ofs into all of this. and joins us now, it is good to you have with us. >> thank you so much. >> woodruff: a provocative title, playing with fire, pakistan at wore with itself. what dow mean by that? >> it mean bes-- many layers of meaning in that. playing with fire in the sense that pakistan has always flirted with dangerous notions. it's always sort of had this nuanced subtle, denied unclear relationship with all these militant groups mostly because they want us to use them as proxies against india which is their long-term adversary but now it has come back to haunt them and many of these same militant islamic groups that they sort of thought they could manage or handle have gotten way out of control and not only moving against afghanistan but in many cases turning against the pakistani state itself. >> you spent a lot of time in the country reporting from there, pam constable. the feeling many ode pakistanies have for the tal
pakistan at war with itself. by "washington post" correspondent pamela constable dell ofs into all of this. and joins us now, it is good to you have with us. >> thank you so much. >> woodruff: a provocative title, playing with fire, pakistan at wore with itself. what dow mean by that? >> it mean bes-- many layers of meaning in that. playing with fire in the sense that pakistan has always flirted with dangerous notions. it's always sort of had this nuanced subtle,...
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in this war is that fall from ending terrorism fall from brigades of more quickly it has spread to pakistan where there are more and more drone attacks it is a war which has not brought democracy afghanistan is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and the truth is the nato presence and nato forces on not part of the solution well speaking about that the transfer of control there from nato troops to local troops in afghanistan is still far from stable as the troops withdraw so how likely do you think it is to enjoy a return to taliban control and you said earlier that this withdrawal is actually failing. well the taliban have grown in strength the americans are talking to the taliban it is almost certain that whatever settlement eventually comes in afghanistan it will involve the taliban in some capacity nearly everybody now recognizes this so what is the point of continuing this war the point of continuing this war is because the americans and the british and their allies camel admit defeat in the second country all through what happened in iraq but is why they're there they are t
in this war is that fall from ending terrorism fall from brigades of more quickly it has spread to pakistan where there are more and more drone attacks it is a war which has not brought democracy afghanistan is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and the truth is the nato presence and nato forces on not part of the solution well speaking about that the transfer of control there from nato troops to local troops in afghanistan is still far from stable as the troops withdraw so how...
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haqqani, taliban, dtp of pakistan is a taliban, tnsm of pakistan is taliban. his brother leading, now he's been killed, all of them are not in tandem with each other. in fact, many in afghanistan fight each other. so, therefore, it's not a monolith. so maybe we go back to 1989 where there'll be chaos, confusion and anarchy, everyone fighting each other. pakistan alone, again, fending for itself. so this was why, as i said, an antipathy against the united states. why is there a confidence and trust deficit between the united states and pakistan? which has got exacerbated all along, no trust at all in the last one and a half years, i think, finally leading to the action of osama bin laden which absolutely displays the lack of trust, lack of confidence between the two countries. very briefly, partially maybe it started back in be my time, in 2004 or '5 when i had a, i had a strategy of weaning the pashtun from the taliban, and, therefore, we started by addressing, putting together local jirgas, a tribal meeting of elders. thought we'd hold tribal jirgas and drew
haqqani, taliban, dtp of pakistan is a taliban, tnsm of pakistan is taliban. his brother leading, now he's been killed, all of them are not in tandem with each other. in fact, many in afghanistan fight each other. so, therefore, it's not a monolith. so maybe we go back to 1989 where there'll be chaos, confusion and anarchy, everyone fighting each other. pakistan alone, again, fending for itself. so this was why, as i said, an antipathy against the united states. why is there a confidence and...
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the fact is that osama bin laden operated out of pakistan for six years or so. in an operational role leading al qaeda in a town 35 miles from islamabad. it is clear he had some sport solve support mechanism there. i don't think at this point know all of the elements of thaf support mechanism and we are working through that. we have tremendous amount of informationing that we recovered from the compound where osama bin laden operated. we continue to work through that. but at this point, i don't know any evidence shown to me that would indicate the pakistani leadership and the military, political military services had foreign knowledge there. but he did operate there for an extended period of time and those questions are being asked in pakistan. >> when we come back, i will ask if there is an obama doctrine and does it involve leading from behind? i don't want you going out on those yet. and leave your phone in your purse, i don't want you texting. >> daddy... ok! ok, here you go. be careful. >> thanks dad. >> and call me--but not while you're driving. we knew th
the fact is that osama bin laden operated out of pakistan for six years or so. in an operational role leading al qaeda in a town 35 miles from islamabad. it is clear he had some sport solve support mechanism there. i don't think at this point know all of the elements of thaf support mechanism and we are working through that. we have tremendous amount of informationing that we recovered from the compound where osama bin laden operated. we continue to work through that. but at this point, i don't...
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in addition to the war in pakistan and libya and iraq and yemen, now the secret ops branch of the military is launching kind of secret drone strikes somalia. what's secret, disclosed, military, intelligence, is quite blurred. cia guy, you run the pentagon. pentagon guy, you run the military. what's the difference? unanimous decision. really big story here, though. the really big gap between the noncontroversy in washington, the lack of political debate about this big picture here, and how unpopular that big picture is in the rest of the country. the hill newspaper released a poll last week showing 72% of the american people think we are involved in too many foreign conflicts overseas, and americans favor removing the u.s. military from afghanistan. 66% of americans oppose the war in iraq. and the public in large part opposes military intervention in libya as well. and in that sort of environment, we confirmed a new cia director and new leader of pentagon with zero did i sent. not to say that these guys personally embody the problem, but where's the debate on this problem? at a time when al
in addition to the war in pakistan and libya and iraq and yemen, now the secret ops branch of the military is launching kind of secret drone strikes somalia. what's secret, disclosed, military, intelligence, is quite blurred. cia guy, you run the pentagon. pentagon guy, you run the military. what's the difference? unanimous decision. really big story here, though. the really big gap between the noncontroversy in washington, the lack of political debate about this big picture here, and how...
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with the help of pakistan. so i think that sometimes we just go from one end of greek allies, great friends which is what was your longtime, in the previous administration, two gosh, these guys are no good, et cetera. this is not the way to do business between two allies and partners. and i think we will not interpret the remarks as a letter. we understand them to be a reflection of american statement of policy, and the americans have the right to defend their homeland by ensuring that terrorists are plotting against the american homeland are dealt with. but as far as the other concern, we are very confident of our sovereignty. we would like to protect our sovereignty. and sovereignty requires that when operations take place in pakistan they should take place without knowledge and our participation. >> a quick follow. does that mean if there's a second rate, that your forces would fire on the rich? >> when i became ambassador to the united states, i went and saw very good colleague of mine, another professor of
with the help of pakistan. so i think that sometimes we just go from one end of greek allies, great friends which is what was your longtime, in the previous administration, two gosh, these guys are no good, et cetera. this is not the way to do business between two allies and partners. and i think we will not interpret the remarks as a letter. we understand them to be a reflection of american statement of policy, and the americans have the right to defend their homeland by ensuring that...
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pakistan has a lot of u.s. trainers that have been working intensely with their special forces, and as a result of that, withheld some of the decade that went with them. they also repelled some of the partnership on the war on terrorism, so to speak. they are still trying to gauge that. for now, in the past, the key relationship between the u.s. and pakistan and the military have been between admiral mullen and his pakistan counterpart, the army chief of staff. i think that this point, the u.s. is still trying to weigh what they can do to move this cooperation forward with pakistan. host: the defense policy reporter a bloomberg news, thank you for being on the "washington journal." joining us now at the c-span table is stephanie sanok, a senior fellow at the center for strategic and international studies. she is here to continue the discussion regarding u.s. policy in afghanistan and iraq. tell us from your perspective what the message of defense secretary panetta posture to afghanistan and iraq was? guest: i t
pakistan has a lot of u.s. trainers that have been working intensely with their special forces, and as a result of that, withheld some of the decade that went with them. they also repelled some of the partnership on the war on terrorism, so to speak. they are still trying to gauge that. for now, in the past, the key relationship between the u.s. and pakistan and the military have been between admiral mullen and his pakistan counterpart, the army chief of staff. i think that this point, the u.s....